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Hedgehogs => European Wild Hedgehogs (Erinaceus europaeus) => Topic started by: Chriiiiiiiis on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 09:11:16

Title: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Chriiiiiiiis on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 09:11:16
But think the dog come off worse as she had a few little cuts to her mouth, paws.

We don't usually have hedgehogs in our garden (because of the dog), they tend to keep in the garden next door. The dog dug a hole near to the fence. I don't know if the hedgehog was sitting on the other side of the fence or whether it crawled through the hole.

I heard the dog squealing, looked out of the window and she had it in her mouth - she is a Jack Russell so pounces when she sees any live animal smaller than her. She was shaking it, and then dropped it and was barking at it. She has never seen a hedgehog before.

Got the dog in as fast as we could and went outside to check on the hedgehog - it was on the patio, curled up so tightly. It didn't look like it had any injuries. It was breathing really heavily.

This is my first ever experience with a hedgehog, unfortunately a bad experience. I could not weigh it or anything. I didn't even know that you could touch them, I carefully put him onto a spade and put him back through the hole - he was still curled up - petrified - and then secured the fence.


He was about the size of a medium cabbage and from what I felt, was quite heavy.

I really hope he surivives...?  :-[
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Derek on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 09:23:22
The hedgehog will be injured and you should have done something to help it  last night, not shoved it back through a hole

go into your neighbours garden & find it & then it must be taken to a vet or wildlife hospital for treatment

have a good look in the garden & see if you can find its nest and hope it hasn't died of shock or has any bite wounds on it that will soon get very infected
where are you

Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: sonic on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 10:08:57
Please go and find the hedgehog.
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: SoftTouch on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 10:26:43
Please it is vital you find the hog. I have one here I've been treating all week with bite wounds from a dog or a fox, they only have to have a small wound from a canine tooth and they get appalling infections if it's not caught fast.

This little one is probably going to have to be put to sleep this morning as the infection has spread so badly.

If that one has an injury that is similar it will get fly strike and be eaten to death by maggots.

Get yourself a cardboard box, a pair of thick gloves and go get it, take it to the nearest vet. Tell them it's a wildlife injury. Where are you, we may have a carer near by who can take it.

Hogs are now on the official list and protected by law as we've lost so many their numbers are dangerously low. We have to save as many of them as we can. You are obviously an animal lover as you have a dog and hogs are sweet little things when you get to know them.
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Chriiiiiiiis on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 11:29:29
It would not be possible for me to find the hedgehog. The garden that I assume it wondered from is above knee height in overgrown grass, bushes, knettles - a neglected garden. No one has lived in the house for a long time.

I'm sorry if you do not agree with me, but I will not be going out to find the hedgehog. I appreciate that they are lovely creatures, though.

I have never been in that situation before. I did not know that you could take them in. I thought that putting him back through the hole would be the best thing for him, at the time.

The hedgehog looked to be okay, just scared. He did not look cut or have any marks on him.
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Stef on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 11:36:43
I appreciate you thought you were doing the right thing Chris, we are all learners here. Would it be possible to put out some dog food tonight near the hole to see if you can tempt the hog out to give it a good check over and take it to a vets in the morning to be seen to?  ???
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: SoftTouch on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 11:42:32
It's highly unlikely you's see any cut marks. It's usually a tiny puncture wound and they don't become obvious until infection sets in. That's a good idea of Stef's and may tempt him back through the hole to be grabbed.
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Chriiiiiiiis on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 11:47:24
I can try.

Do they normally come out at a specific time or should I just keep looking for him?

I felt really sorry for him last night. Was it right for him to stay curled up for so long? He didn't uncurl once - but was breathing.
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: spikelet on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 12:02:56
Hi Chris.

They'll stay curled up as a response to any perceived threat. Must have been very frightening so until he's certain any treat has gone, he/she would stay tightly curled and only slowly uncurl to check if the coast is clear.
But if you could try your best for him, there should be someone locally who can help him out. Well done for joining the forum and seeking advice. They are fragile despite their spines and a dog will follow its instincts.

Where in the world are you ?

You may be near enough for someone to come and help.

Rob
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: susancee on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 12:14:46
Hi Chris

The main time for them coming out is after dusk, although if he is injured he may well be out during the day time, so if you are home today please keep a bit of a vigil in looking out for him.  Food and water near the hole as suggested will hopefully encourage him to come back.

Curling is normal, their way of protecting themselves.  Although they normally run off after a short while, he was probably in shock

Which area do you live in?  If we know then someone on here may be able to point you in the direction of a carer. I was thinking of possibly you ringing one in advance in the hope that the hedgehog turns up later, so something can be done quickly for him.  
If you see him please pick him up (with a pair of gardening gloves) and put him in a deepish box with old towels or similar for bedding  - then straight back to us here or ring a carer
Good luck with finding him
Sue x
PS Sorry Rob, our posts crossed, said similar to you
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: spikelet on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 12:21:37
Good points well made Sue  ;D

Rob
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Stef on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 12:43:25
My labrador x once grabbed one from under the bushes (one which i later went onto release after its LONG long hibernation!) - he was running around the garden with it throwing it in the air etc. Grabbed it put it in a box and it didnt uncurl for ages - actually shut it in a hedgehog box and it managed to push its way out (luckily it was in the greenhouse with the door closed) - mind you took us ALL DAY to find her - she was asleep in a carrier bag  :D

Little bit of dog meat near the hole Chris - if shes still out there id hope shed come for it  ;) Mind you if shes there be careful as there surprisingly fast it may be worth putting it a few feet away from the hole as if she runs back through into that long grass, you've no chance  :D
Let us know what county your in as someone will more than likely be close to you on here and help you out  ;)
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: jimmy h on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 14:37:23
where are you,if you are near me i will come and look for it,
Title: Re: My dog attacked a hedgehog last night
Post by: Emi on Sunday 02 August 2009_ 23:15:43
I have a dog and there are several hedgehogs in my garden every night. My dog is quite friendly with hogs but I do stay with him ALL THE TIME when he goes out to the garden at night. Sometimes I even put a lead on him. Large adult hogs just stay ball and don't move when my dog goes near them but young ones are less afraid of my dog and some of them even lick my dog. Hogs can bite, too. If a hog bites my dog, my dog will probably become angry and be aggressive. So, that's the reason why my dog NEVER goes out to the garden alone at night. It is not only to protect hogs. It is also to protect my dog too. If a dog bites a hog, the dog can get injured too.